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#1 Sailor99

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Posted 15 March 2008 - 05:11 AM

Just got back from a short but phenominally interested fly. Rain is forecast for the whole weekend here, but there was a short clear spell this morning, and due to work pressures I have not been out all week, so I was out with the larks. It wasn't the sort of wind I would normally bother with being just the gentlest breeze, just 2-3 knots, but I wanted to try my new (well, second hand) SUL out. So set it up with the normal 80' lines. And it flew great.

Then I rememebered that I had made up some short lines out of left-overs when I made some 120' lines. So tried the SUL with those. Amazing. It is like you are holding the kite with your fingers. It is so close (the lines are about 30') and so responsive. I was just getting the new feel of hovers and the rest with these new lines when the wind picked up a little. So packed up the SUL and got out the standard B on the 80' lines. Then the wind went some more, perhaps 8-10knots, so swapped again to the B vented.

It was then that the revolation happened. Just for the devilment and because they were still laid out on the ground I put the B on the short lines. WOW and DOUBLE WOW! The combination of the vented, race frame and shortlines was, well, um, I can't think of the words. The vented softens out all the twitchiness but you still get the intamacy with your kite and sensitivity of control.

I am sure many people have done this before, but to me, on my own in a field, it felt as if I had just invented the wheel. And it struck me why I have got so hooked on these damn kites. No two days are the same, every time you fly you learn something new and it is challenging but not impossible to do. And long may this continue.

And of course all too soon the rain set in. Still, can't wait for it to clear and I can get out again. Wow! I could even fly in my garden!
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Posted 15 March 2008 - 06:38 AM

The combination of the vented, race frame and shortlines....

Very interesting. Keep on experimenting and reporting your findings.
We too had a brief spell before the heavens opened (earlier than expected) this morning.
As you said no 2 days are the same here - the wind was very light, and it was great to use the different knot settings on the handles ;)

I managed to keep aloft when an unexpected pack of hounds came by on the public path without any trouble (phew)!

Must make us some short lines too.
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Posted 15 March 2008 - 06:44 AM

Wilco and do make yourself some - fantastic!
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Posted 15 March 2008 - 06:58 AM

Hi Jeremy.
nice one, now you have got the hang of short lines, next time out practise the catch and throw.
kite right over your head, both handles in left hand, pull top 2 lines towards you and catch.
dont do my trick and drop the handles.
once caught, hold kite javelin style, throw in a upwards direction, grab the handles and stop the kite from hitting the deck.
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Posted 15 March 2008 - 07:35 AM

D'ya reckon you'd get away with short line street flying in Trafalgar square fountains ? (joke!)
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Posted 15 March 2008 - 08:11 AM

i love useing 50 foot lines for flying the wildwood boardwalk that is a true blast as you can land your kite for a slice of pizza and then go down a few blocks more for some beers and flying enterinment.. the people love it when i do stalls of the roofs and sometimes i get free stuff for putting on a boardwalk flying show.. im no john b by any means but just to entertain the people with my basics is fine by me.. their have been days where i have had lines snagged on roof tops or worse so their are alot of risks i take when entering the boards...
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Posted 15 March 2008 - 08:17 AM

Great idea Pudsli. I have seen it on a vid so, as you say, I better have a go next time.

I like the Boardwalk story as well Mr A. I will have to have a think about where I could do similar here, although I am not sure of the law in the UK. Perhaps a seaside promenade or pier.
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Posted 15 March 2008 - 08:30 AM

I like to practice on short lines. You really get the feel of the kite. I learn alot about control on short lines. It also quickens your reflexs.

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Posted 15 March 2008 - 09:22 AM

short lines are wonderful. but when you go back to long lines you have to adjust for the slower reaction time of the kite.

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Posted 15 March 2008 - 11:40 AM

Go LONG,i have a set of 300ft lines and a set of 200ft.Its great flying out to sea.The wind window is,

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The sedgewick or a stack,look and fly superb in a sweet wind.

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Posted 15 March 2008 - 12:16 PM

Are yes, but have you ever tied the two sets together to make a 500 foot set? ;)
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Posted 15 March 2008 - 01:14 PM

The height limit is to low or not high enough.
Had one line kite up over 1500ft with fairy lights on and a strobe.It pulled like a truck.Took 3 of us to reel it in.Flown 2 dual line at once on 200ft.

Short lines on a rev or dualine are cool.

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Posted 15 March 2008 - 03:25 PM

I flew 200' lines a few times. The kite was so far away and small I found that I lost interest in it after awhile. Another problem was at the bottom of the window winds were lite at the top I needed a vented. It was lots of fun for a day and a great experience. Cut down they made a nice set of 120's for team stuff and a nice set of 80's to play with most of the time. I also have a set of 30's to use in small areas and crowded days which are a ton of fun. After a day of flying with the 30's I feel like I can do anything on the 120's.
It's all good! B)

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Posted 16 March 2008 - 01:15 AM

I nearly suggested 30ft lines myself Denny,As ya say,once you get your head around the kite being so close and in your face almost[it does seem that way].The speed and movement are kewl.
When ya get the long lines out again.Its like flying in slowmotion.


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Posted 16 March 2008 - 01:18 AM

When ya get the long lines out again.Its like flying in slowmotion.


You hit the nail on the head there. It was both weird and great going to the shortlines. But going back to the long lines (well 80' anyway) it seemed the kite was sooooooooo slooooow - and I had to put my specs on to see it!
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Posted 16 March 2008 - 06:27 AM

It was both weird and great going to the shortlines. But going back to the long lines (well 80' anyway) it seemed the kite was sooooooooo slooooow - and I had to put my specs on to see it!

So does that mean you can fudge/fluff 'mistakes' more easily on the longer lines than the short ones ?

Booo it is raining again today :blue-confused:
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Posted 16 March 2008 - 07:16 AM

your right danny .. the shorter lines do make the kite go real fast if you fly in a wind..
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Posted 16 March 2008 - 08:54 AM

So does that mean you can fudge/fluff 'mistakes' more easily on the longer lines than the short ones ?

I wouldn't know as I never make any. I only ever hit the ground or go racing off left field intentionally :innocent:

I have hear lesser flyers say that it is easier with long lines.
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Posted 16 March 2008 - 12:31 PM

i also managed a quick flight in the new forest between showers yesterday to test my new race frame... 2-3knots max... was so absorbed/impressed I didn't hear a pony that sneaked up behind me and then nudged me in the back! not my best ever landing and my heart didn't stop pounding until I was back in the car... didn't realise this was such a high risk sport!

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Posted 17 March 2008 - 06:51 AM

If you guys like short lines, try flying indoors with 5-20 foot lines!

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